Complaint Regarding Plenary Debate of Petition 200171 re the new Velindre Cancer Centre

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After the debate on Wednesday the 3rd of March we have decided to submit a complaint with the petitions committee officer and with the standards commissioner. We’re not happy at the way our petition was treated (an independent inquiry was not even mentioned once by Members other than Janet Finch Saunders to introduce the petition), and there were mistruths told by a number of Members. Although the stories of patients are important and deserve to be heard, the facts of the clinical, environmental, and monetary issues with the new cancer centre also deserved to be heard. Sadly, it didn’t appear like any of the labour members had attempted to read our submissions, or those sent by clinicians to all Ministers and Members. Therefore we submitted the following compliant.

“I am writing to you today as a result of the plenary debate which took place on Wednesday 3rd of March. We followed your advice and lobbied members extensively regarding the petition. We reached out to a number of our regional MS’s, and heard two would like to have spoken – Gareth Bennett and Neil McEvoy, – as well as hearing of support from Rhun ap Iorwerth. However, when it came to debate, Ap Iorwerth, was the only non-Labour member to be selected. As such we were not represented on balance within this ‘debate’.


Our petition was not even mentioned by the members, regardless of the tireless work we have done to raise the serious clinical and environmental issues within the petitions process, it appears this was never read by the members who spoke. Further, the Llywydd stated on twitter it was simply an oversight made by her team member that our petition and local area had no representation in the debate. How can such a casual oversight occur on such a divisive and serious issue? This is unacceptable to our campaign, and the local people who have been tirelessly working to support this petition. 


As a result I would like to complain – 
1. Petition 200171 was not treated in a balanced, impartial way, with the llywydds office only choosing one non-Labour, non-governing member to speak in support of petition 200171;

2. The debate was compromised of those pursuing the Governments agenda and failed to consider the facts regarding the location of the new cancer centre, and the petition calling for an independent inquiry and the local community were totally ignored;

3. The words independent inquiry were never mentioned by a member other than Janet Finch-Saunders to introduce the petition. As such our petition was never considered;

4. No members representing South Wales Central were called, however two requested to speak and were denied. Therefore Cardiff North was not represented, and neither was our petition. This undermined the process which was supposed to give the 5,241 signatories a voice in the Senedd, effectively leaving us voiceless and unrepresented. Therefore this debate did not consider our petition;

5. Members made a number of false and misleading claims in plenary, misleading the public and the Government Ministers present. I would be happy to outline these further if required. 

I will also be making a formal complaint to the Llywydd’s office, and standards commissioner as a result of the effort to manipulate this debate purely in favour of a new cancer centre, and disregard and ignore the views of 5,241 who signed our petition. This is a clear violation of Senedd standards. 

I want to be clear – we didn’t have a debate on Wednesday. Rather, it was a purposeful white-wash. And so I will be clear – this community will not be ignored or misrepresented, regardless of how the processes have repeatedly undermined us, or the leaks within multiple departments which give the petitioner in support of the new centre advantages. 


We will continue to pursue a real debate on this issue where we are represented equally. This is the least we deserve considering this process of opposition has occurred during a global pandemic. 


Kind regards, 
Save the Northern Meadows”

6 Responses

  1. Christian Davenport

    To all who represent the people..
    You know this is a cash cow hospital…
    What happened in the senedd on 3rd of march 2021 has shown me how that you only represent your own interests….. the people of Whitchurch deserve better. The Northern Meadows should be left untouched for future generations to enjoy not build a hospital on a great nature sanctuary… Wales needs the best cancer hospital in the UK. Not some cash cow with a conference centre. Shame on you all if you allow this to happen….

  2. John Loaring

    It seems to me that the proposed new cancer centre is being driven through without any consideration for the environmental, financial and clinical impact. It flies in the face of Welsh Labour and the Senedd’s supposed green agenda and leaves me suspicious of certain members’ motivation.

  3. Helen Jenkins

    I am apalled that after all the work that has gone into this petition, that it clearly did not get a fair hearing. Whatever happened to local democracy? It would seem that those in power are not willing to even listen to any opposing views. As ever, the Establishment just ignores all voices of dissent.
    I am disgusted that our devolved government functions in this way. We have all become used to being ignored by Westminster. Now it looks like we are ignored by the Senedd and even by the Petitions Committee.

  4. Ray

    All very fair comments , the debate was very biased towards supporting the new build on the northern meadows. There were numerous issues not read out and I feel the public were mislead

  5. Virginie Reuter

    That sums it up perfectly. Due processes were clearly not followed and the whole of the Senedd ‘debate’ was a bit of a farce.

  6. Ian Vincent

    This sort of staged debate is completely turning myself and many people I know against this Administration.
    Shocking and totally undemocratic.
    Total lack of consultation, representation and Democracy.
    Breathtakingly worrying.

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